No, You Can’t Support Abortion and be a Good Latter-day Saint.

You can’t support abortion and be a good Latter-day Saint.

I have been debating writing this for a while, knowing that I will receive personal attacks for it. But this morning I received a clear prompting, that “come what may” I need to write this. Also note, when I reference abortion I am not talking about the less than 3% that are for medical or due to rape/incest, but rather the 97% of abortions that are elective.

For Latter-day Saints, abortion is not a matter of Liberal vs Conservative, Democrat vs Republican, or even Pro-Choice vs Pro-Life. Abortion is a matter of prophetic declaration. There is zero gray area when it comes to Latter-day Saints and the topic of elective abortion. Multiple prophets have made crystal clear that the Lord does not condone, and in fact, condemns abortion and those who advocate it. Our prophet, speaking on behalf of the Lord declared: “As a servant of the Lord, I dutifully warn those who advocate and practice abortion that they incur the wrath of Almighty God” Russell M. Nelson (“Reverence for life”,  April 1985).  President Kimball declared: “This Church of Jesus Christ opposes abortion and counsels all members not to submit to nor participate in any abortion, in any way, for convenience or to hide sins. Abortion must be considered one of the most revolting and sinful practices in this day.” Spencer W. Kimball (“Why Call Me Lord, Lord, and Do Not the Things Which I Say?” April 1975). And he also said,  “Members of the Church guilty of being parties to the sin of abortion must be subjected to the disciplinary action of the councils of the Church as circumstances warrant.” (“The Sanctity of Life” April 1975)

"Now, as a servant of the Lord, I dutifully warn those who advocate and practice abortion that they incur the wrath of Almighty God" Russell M. Nelson

Above and beyond supporting abortion being Anti-Latter-day Saint, supporting abortion is actually anti-Christian. Did Christ not declare that “By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.” (John 13:35) and did He declare that second only to loving God is the command to “Love thy neighbour as thyself.” (Matt 22:39)  Elder Maxwell asked, “Abortion, which has increased enormously, causes one to ask, “Have we strayed so far from God’s second great commandment—love thy neighbor—that a baby in a womb no longer qualifies to be loved—at least as a mother’s neighbor?” Neal A. Maxwell (“Behold, the Enemy Is Combined” April 1993).

What about choice?

Some member will object, but what about the women’s right to choose? To that President Nelson rebuttals, “Another contention raised is that a woman is free to choose what she does with her own body. To a certain extent this is true for all of us. We are free to think. We are free to plan. And then we are free to do. But once an action has been taken, we are never free from its consequences. Those considering abortion have already exercised certain choices.” Russell M. Nelson (“Reverence for life”,  April 1985).  He also taught, “When the controversies about abortion are debated, “individual right of choice” is invoked as though it were the one supreme virtue. That could only be true if but one person were involved. The rights of any one individual do not allow the rights of another individual to be abused. In or out of marriage, abortion is not solely an individual matter. Terminating the life of a developing baby involves two individuals with separate bodies, brains, and hearts. A woman’s choice for her own body does not include the right to deprive her baby of life—and a lifetime of choices that her child would make.”  Russell M. Nelson (“Abortion: An Assult on the Defenseless”, Ensign, Oct  2008)

"When the controversies about abortion are debated, “individual right of choice” is invoked as though it were the one supreme virtue. That could only be true if but one person were involved. The rights of any one individual do not allow the rights of another individual to be abused. In or out of marriage, abortion is not solely an individual matter. Terminating the life of a developing baby involves two individuals with separate bodies, brains, and hearts. A woman’s choice for her own body does not include the right to deprive her baby of life—and a lifetime of choices that her child would make." Russell M. Nelson

What about rape, incest, and health reasons?

Like I said at the beginning, I am not addressing the 3% of abortions caught by this caveat, but I will quote President Packer. “Except where the wicked crime of incest or rape was involved, or where competent medical authorities certify that the life of the mother is in jeopardy, or that a severely defective fetus cannot survive birth, abortion is clearly a “thou shalt not.” Even in these very exceptional cases, much sober prayer is required to make the right choice.” Boyd K. Packer (“Covenants” Oct 1999)

 Who is your God, politics or God?

Other members will object, that abortion is their opinion and that they can be pro-abortion yet a good Latter-day Saint.  The real root of this idea is a question we need to ask ourselves is, “Am I a Latter-day Saint first? Or does my political ideology come before my religion?” If the prophet speaks out against your political ideology, be it about the legalization of marijuana, abortion, same-sex marriage, or about welfare, refugees, and illegal immigrants, when the prophets, on behalf of the Lord, speaks, the debate ends. If you refuse to follow the Prophet than you are using your agency to act in direct opposition to the Lord and His servants.

The Celestial Kingdom is not going to be inhabited with “Democrat Latter-day Saints” or “Republican Latter-day Saints” or even “Libertarian Latter-day Saints” but rather those who put their faith before politics, who follow the prophet and are faithful to their covenants. President Benson made this clear when he declared,  “All objections, whether they be on abortion, plural marriage, seventh-day worship, [marijuana, abortion, same-sex marriage, welfare, refugees, illegal immigrants] etc., hinge on whether Joseph Smith and his successors were and are prophets of God receiving divine revelation.”  Ezra Taft Benson (First President Message, Ensign, Jan 1988)

Coming full circle,  the Lord has spoken, and ours is the duty, ya the covenant obligation to obey Him. If we need to change our politics to align with our God then we must! For surely if we change our God to align with our politics we will be in for a rude awakening when we come face to face with God whom we have forsaken. Our prophet warns of this when he said: “But as loud voices argue on, let us remember that those who advocate abortion have already been born! Those who freely deny God with their amoral and agnostic practices will one day find that He may just as freely deny them!” Russell M. Nelson (Protect the Spiritual Power Line, Nov 1984).

"But as loud voices argue on, let us remember that those who advocate abortion have already been born! Those who freely deny God with their amoral and agnostic practices will one day find that He may just as freely deny them! " Russell M. Nelson

Taking a Righteous Stand.

Now that we have fully established that a righteous Latter-day Saint will not support abortion President Tanner poses the question, “Do we fight against the evils around us—pornography, abortion, tobacco, alcohol, drugs? Do we have the courage to stand up for our convictions? Can we truly say we are not ashamed of the gospel of Christ?” N. Eldon Tanner (“Put on the Whole Armor of God” April 1979). So how do we stand?  Are we to object obnoxiously and vocally? The answer to that is a resounding no! So what are we to do, how are we to stand? President Packer gave an insight when he taught: “When one knows the doctrine, parenthood becomes a sacred obligation, the begetting of life a sacred privilege. Abortion would be unthinkable.” Boyd K. Packer (“The Mystery of Life” Oct 1983). We need to stand up, speak out, and fight for something, not just against something. we are not just anti-abortion, but we are pro-life, pro-adoption, pro-family!

"When one knows the doctrine, parenthood becomes a sacred obligation, the begetting of life a sacred privilege. Abortion would be unthinkable." Boyd K. Packer

For more quotes concerning about see this quote collection: 18 Powerful Quotes From Latter-day Prophets and Apostles Concerning Abortion.

18 Powerful Quotes From Latter-day Prophets and Apostles Concerning Abortion.

67 thoughts on “No, You Can’t Support Abortion and be a Good Latter-day Saint.

  1. And yet, the Church stance is that it is not a sin to have an abortion because we don’t know when the spirit enters the body.

    And last one I checked, the gospel was all about choice.

      1. And in the April 95 President Nelson (then apostle Nelson) talk you cited, he does address when life begins. He also addressed the “the gospel is about choice” issue.

          1. Please remove the direct link because selecting it erases all of my LDSTools app content when Pres Nelson’s talk opens. I had 6-7 items open (CFM lesson, NT Mark and Luke, etc) and now only one…the one from Pres Nelson. Instead just reference the title and year.

    1. Did you not read the quotes? Prophets and apostles have ALL said it is a sin, without any qualifications about when the spirit enters the body. There is no wiggle room in their stance.

  2. And here’s another one for you…
    YOU CAN’T BE A GOOD AMERICAN and practice “abortion”!
    The California State (and almost ALL other States too) Constitution’s Preamble read: “We, the People of the State of California, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, in order to secure and perpetuate its blessings, do establish this Constitution.

    THY SHALT NOT KILL.. Is our commandment from our Almighty God. Hence, abortion is killing, therefore unconstitutional!

  3. Can you judge others and be a good Latter-day Saint? The answer is NO!

    Yes I realize the irony/hipocracy in my statement but I am just making the point that we do not have the right do judge if others are “good” or not. Yes prophets have made it clear about abortion and plenty of other topics. I just don’t see the value in writing an article trying to prove others are not good. Preach the gospel, love others and let God judge.

    My two cents.

    1. We also know that it is those that sin are those that become easily offended. She did not judge, she simply laid out, through using the words of the prophets, that abortion is a sin and those that participate are committing a sin that will carry eternal consequences.

    2. My impression is that this article does not judge anyone. It answers a question. Unless you tell someone you’ve had an abortion, no one would know, therefore no one could judge you. But the article allows you to evaluate your own choices and make any necessary adjustments.

    3. No one is suggesting a final judgment of anyone here. However, there are certain actions that are sins (such as murder, abortion, rape, etc.). Knowing those actions are sins helps guide us. But, as all are sinners reliant solely on the atonement of Christ for redemption, no one would be wise to believe they know the final judgment.

      But, if you meet Christ at the judgment bar and he offers his atonement to cover all of your past mistakes and you respond, “OK, but I still want to be able to abort children,” I leave it to you to figure out what that will mean in terms of your final glory. Please don’t make that mistake — nor the mistake of thinking that the spirit that you carry with you in this life will change in the life to come.

  4. So obviously you are fine going against the teachings of your own church.

    https://www.lds.org/topics/abortion?lang=

    “Church leaders have said that some exceptional circumstances may justify an abortion, such as when pregnancy is the result of incest or rape, when the life or health of the mother is judged by competent medical authority to be in serious jeopardy, or when the fetus is known by competent medical authority to have severe defects that will not allow the baby to survive beyond birth.”

    1. Becky, I already said I am only talking about elective abortions. That statement is about medical/rape/incest.

  5. I have twice been in a hospital bed and told that my baby was dead and I needed to abort it. I am now in my late sixties and still wish I had been able to bring them into this world. The regret lasts a life time. How much more will the thought of the ones that have been aborted through choice last in the eternities

  6. Very few pro choice people advocate for abortion as birth control. All, and I mean all, pro-choice people want fewer and safer abortions. The apparently only acceptable Republican Christian right stance is no abortions for any reason under any circumstances never ever ever. Even if the mother is going to die if she doesn’t get an abortion. Well, that will never happen, legal or not legal, abortions will happen. So make them legal, not funded by any tax dollars, safe and rare. How do you make them rare? Two ways. 1, the Republican way, put chastity belts on every girl above the age of 10 and the father can give the key to the husband. But that won’t even stop incest, will it? The Democratic way is to educate young people, help them make wise choices and provide adequate birth control. Make it very easy to get birth control, and make using birth control the norm for anybody that wants it. Republicans in some extreme corners don’t even want birth control made available to married women. I kid you not… In states where Dem policy is in force, the abortion rate per-capita is less and going down. Where teen pregnancies and abortion is highest is in red states with abstinence-only sex ed. What would you do? Let’s say you were a dictator. What would your policy be? Deny abortions to rape and incest victims? Deny abortions to women whose babies they know will be not viable? Make them carry 9 months with a dead baby risking sepsis and future fertility? Make women with ectopic pregnancies lay on gurneys in the hallway at the hospital and writhe in pain until they die like is the case in Nicaragua which prohibits ALL pregnancy termination procedures upon jail time and loss of license for doctors and nurses. For an exception to this in Nicaragua, a board of the Surgeon General, Secretary of Health and a priest have to organize a hearing to grant an exception. it takes several weeks. The lady in question died in the hallway without even a drink of water from the staff. What is the correct policy? You tell me. My wife lost her first pregnancy. would you have her risk sepsis and infertility? She had a D&C because the fetus did not spontaneously abort. We had a child 6 years later. If she would have had to wait, she would either be dead or we would be childless. What would you tell my wife to do? I am not pro abortion. I am pro access to safe and legal abortions when necessary. And as a member of the COJCOLDS I want laws that allow for safe abortions . Also I want my Church to follow its own 11th article of faith and not try and impose its mores on non-members by passing laws restricting the doctor mother decision process. The current movement to restrict abortion in the USA is NOT in keeping with LDS policy. They would take away the right of LDS women (along with every other American woman) to get a medically necessary abortions and also to take their right to an abortion after rape or incest. So get off of your high horse. We know what the prophets have said and they are on our side.

    1. That is just a bald face lie. 97 percent of abortions are elective aka convenience is the reason. The church has said that for the less than three percent that are rape/incest/health then those are understandable, otherwise, it is strictly wrong. Those who are pro-choice are NOT arguing for the health, but rather for convenience abortions.

    2. The number one reason that women give for getting an abortion is convenience. And if the Democrats want rare but legal then why advocate for abortions at any point before birth, because that certainly won’t make them rare. And since when has ant Republican advocated for chastity belts? Seriously, is that the best you got?

    3. A lot to unpack in your post, Antone. First , you say ALL pro-choice people want fewer and safer abortions. Really? Even the ones who want women to “shout their abortions? And the ones who advocate for abortion up until full-term? Then you said the Republicans’ only stance is no abortion never ever even if it means the death of the mother. But virtually every statement the church makes on the subject includes that in the case of rape, incest or the life of the mother, that abortion is excusable. It is fallacious to say otherwise. Next point – chastity belts? Seriously? Then you again talk about denying abortions to rape/incest victims. And I will AGAIN stress that the church DOES allow abortions in case of rape/incest/life of mother. Another point – ectopic pregnancies are medical emergencies, not elective abortions. Miscarriages also don’t qualify as abortions, because the baby has already died. If the morher’s body doesn’t spontaneously expel it, a doctor will have to go in and remove it.No one is saying a mother should keep a dead baby inside her.It’s ludicrous for you to even suggest that. And by the way, what does Nicaragua have to do with US laws? So to sum up -you give us all these dire situations with women and make it seem like we want to deny care to them, when pretty much all of them fall under the rape/incest/life of mother rule. Also, the church does not pass laws. Even laws restricting abortions. That’s the government’s job. So the point is – you have no point.

    4. It is most definitely not! You can spew your nonsense all you want, but the Lord and the United States are not on the side of ending the life of the innocent and the defenseless, but allowed in very rare circumstances, and not even necessarily then (that is when it is a personal decision between them and God). You need to get your facts checked big time. Do you not know that 90% of abortions are performed on perfectly healthy mothers and babies? Do you believe our laws shouldn’t reflect our God’s commandments? Would you allow for slavery, because it it the right of the owner what they do with their “property?” You advocate for choice, but take the choice away from the baby. Women have more freedom, choices and access to resources than ever before but more abortions are being performed than ever before, and all too often out of convenience!

    5. It’s convenient that all pro-choice individuals use the 3% (mother’s life, rape, incest, infant viability) to defend the 97% (convenience, birth control). It allows the veneer of rational caring concern — built on a pile of dead children. Even the church doesn’t disagree with the 3%. But the 97% is the issue at hand.

  7. I consider myself a good Latter Day Saint and, as such, I try not to judge the choices others make, since I may not have been in their shoes. Because of that, I am pro-choice…….i would neither encourage nor discourage anyone to have an abortion, because I also believe it is one of the most agonal decisions one will ever have to make, regardless of circumstances. You can be forgiven for abortion, after repentance, and to not include that in your article is being somewhat one-sided and only perpetuates guilt.

    1. Any Latter-day Saint who understands the plan of salvation and who sustains and believes the prophets, would fight for life. The notion that abortion is ok because you can repent of it later is a mockery of the Atonement. Yes, you can always repent, but it will require the most severe repentance; the type that can be best described as enduring the pains of a damned soul for the murder that was committed. Abortion is murder. It is grounds for excommunication if you are a member, and causes you to require mission presidents approval for baptism. How could someone knowingly enable someone to do something so damaging to their soul?

      1. Abortion is not murder and to think so is very dangerous. If it were that would mean millions of Americans are murderers. Furthermore we would be probably be compelled to take up arms against them to prevent such slaughter on a grand scale. We are all working off of limited knowledge of how God views those who commit this terrible sin. Although, I would argue at some point late term abortion is murder.

        Elder Nelson stated the following: “Yes. So far as is known, the Lord does not regard this transgression as murder. And “as far as has been revealed, a person may repent and be forgiven for the sin of abortion.” Gratefully, we know the Lord will help all who are truly repentant.”

        https://www.lds.org/ensign/1985/05/reverence-for-life?lang=eng

        1. Yes, you can repent from abortion, but if it is not classified strictly as murder to God than it falls into the injunction of anything like unto it. And therefore it one of the worse four sins. Murder in a legal context is taking the innocent life, how is abortion not murder in the legal context? Is there any life more innocent than a baby?

          “We rely on the prophets of God, who have told us that while there may be “rare” exceptions, “the practice of elective abortion is fundamentally contrary to the Lord’s injunction, ‘Thou shalt not … kill, nor do anything like unto it’ (D&C 59:6)”
          Dallin H. Oaks.

          “Choose to live the law of celestial marriage. The command in the marriage ceremony is to multiply and replenish the earth. In the Doctrine and Covenants when the Lord is referring to the blessings of celestial marriage (He is talking about husband-wife relationships), He makes this statement: “And if ye abide in my covenant, and commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood,” and so forth. (D&C 132:19.) What do you think He’s talking about? Is it possible that He was referring to abortion? Think about it! Is there more innocent life than that of the unborn child? And why is murder referred to when the Lord is talking about marriage? Conception is a contract with God that you will create a body, and He contracts to put the spirit of life within it. Any covenant of the Lord cannot be broken without a penalty.”
          Eldred G. Smith

          1. I realize all abortion is wrong and evil. I would submit the level of evil is related to the development of the fetus and whether God has sent a spirit to its developing body. At best abortion is disrespectful to the process in which we are brought into the world by ending that life early in a pregnancy. At worse it is full blow murder at the end of the pregnancy. Having interviewed a woman who had an abortion when I was in the mission field it is my opinion she was not a murderer or even close. The stake president who interviewed her felt the same way. On the other hand someone who murdered someone would have been treated much differently (interviewed by an apostle if I am not mistaken).

            As for D&C 132:19 I believe he is talking about the unpardonable sin of denying the Holy Spirit which is also called shedding innocent blood or re-crucifying Christ anew.

            All I am saying is while we hold these strong anti-abortion now we have to be open to the possibility we don’t fully understand how God views this issue and the nuances involved. It is because of this I take a hard line view of abortion and encourage others to do the same yet I don’t think of those who commit this sin as murderers or near murderers. I will leave that to God. My hope is God used His foreknowledge of His children to wait until at least 3-4 months to send Spirit children to their physical bodies so they are guilty of a less grievous sin than separating a spirit from a body.

          2. If it isn’t clear by now the shedding of innocent blood is clearly explained in verse 27 of section 132:

            27 The blasphemy against the Holy Ghost, which shall not be forgiven in the world nor out of the world, is in that ye commit murder wherein ye shed innocent blood, and assent unto my death, after ye have received my new and everlasting covenant, saith the Lord God; and he that abideth not this law can in nowise enter into my glory, but shall be damned, saith the Lord.

          3. Exactly, thank you so much for writing this article. You have explained everything so thoroughly that those that do not see are blinded by the craftiness of men and are entering very dangerous territory.

    2. If it was nothing to be guilty of, then why would they need to repent. Obviously, we shouldnt condemn the person, but the act itself! Love the sinner, hate the sin, amd most definitely vote for laws to make it legal! If we are speaking up for the revealed word of God, then we are doing our part and we are His. In the cities where they have legalized drugs, do you see drug use going down? Have you heard what is happening in San Francisco?

    3. “You can be forgiven for abortion, after repentance, and to not include that in your article is being somewhat one-sided and only perpetuates guilt.”

      If you plan to commit sin and repent, you’ll also need to repent for making such plans. Real repentance means that you wouldn’t do it again under the same circumstances as before.

      My grandpa-in-law didn’t play the field of young women at bars when he was in his 80s. But it wasn’t because he’d stopped wanting to do so.

      Be very wary of confusing this with repentance.

  8. I would contend that one could be adamently against something while not forcing others to agree with them under threat of force (law). For example, we oppose everything from coffee and drugs to war and euthanasia. The question is not whether we oppose it, I think most Saints do. But we do so while allowing them bodily autonomy under the law. We vehemently oppose the harm alcohol causes the body, the family, and the community. But most Saints do not support legal prohibition. Would love to hear your rebuttle.

    1. The Church does support prohibition. Heber J. Grant actually told the saints to vote in favor of keeping it and when Utah cast the deciding vote and they repealed it he rebuked the saints in conference saying that some members who sang “We Thank Thee, O God, for a Prophet” seemed to add the words, “provided he keeps his mouth shut politically.”

      See, here is the problem with the legalize everything, we pit ourselves against God. He, as the ultimate law-giver has criminalized sin at a universal level, and when his church has been in full power sin is also criminalized on a national level. Just like people can disobey universal laws they can also disobey national laws. It is a fallacy to think we must legalize sin to enable agency. That is like saying give kids guns so we can give them the agency not to murder.

        1. Considering there is nothing wrong with wine, and that the Word of Wisdom is only for us in our day. Why would Jesus get in trouble? Most everyone drank, even in the Book of Mormon they drank.

      1. I really can’t thank you enough for your insights and for trying to enlighten others with the truth. Don’t back down, God is with you!

  9. People don’t understand the curse that has been brought on America (and the world) by the sacrifice of children to ba’al. In hopes, prayers that the scourges in America that are before God’s eyes daily, will be removed so that we can come to the time of peace that will start at the very beginning of the final seven years. Waiting for that treaty to be signed with Israel, or to see the Temple cornerstone being laid. Meanwhile, it looks like His hand is once again over us, especially since He has been brought back into the White House. Things are coming together. The time is getting shorter. I always loved the old movies with people carrying signs and crying out, “Repent, the end is near!” That time has come, dear Brothers and Sisters.

    1. It is truly a great and marvelous time to be alive and the fight for right and the great ans spacious building is real! I can’t wait for the second coming of our Lord and Savior, and just pray that I can stay true to the end and stand strong against the evil that is constantly surrounding us!

  10. Jeremy, thank you for being steadfast and immovable. There is a difference in just judging someone who sins different than you do or doesn’t meet your personal standards and righteous judgment. Being against abortion is making a righteous judgment. Being against legalizing marijuana and other controlled substances is making a righteous judgment and so forth. To be firm in the faith requires one to be just that. Firm in upholding the commandments, the words of our prophets, and walking the covenant path. So, as Joseph Smith said: “Brethren, shall we not go on in so great a cause? Go forward and not backward. Courage, brethren; and on, on to the victory!”

    1. “Sound the war cry!” Stay firm and immovable, we and true saints now and throughout history are with you! I can’t wait to meet prophets and leaders of our Church and say thank you to them, and actually have them be proud of us for staying true to the truth. It’s horribly sad that the opposing voices could come from within our own Church, actual members who profess to follow the Prophet.

  11. There are many times where women have proceeded with their pregnancies against medical doctor’s advice due to health reasons, both for the baby’s or the mother’s, and both survived perfectly! There are also many women who have elected, without being forced, to have babies after rape or incest. Bravo to these sweet women, who have believed in their babies and loved them! This is not meant to demean those who have chosen not to have babies after rape or incest, but the article did not mention this option, which is real and has been taken by brave choice.

  12. Thanks for the article, Abortion is, was and always will be, with the very rare exception, a sin of the worst variety.

    Many of the Saints here misunderstand the injunction not to judge. John 7:24 does not state NOT to judge, but rather “Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.”

    In other words, judge according to the Spirit…that said, lots of LDS Saints here in name only, part of the wheat and tares, no question.

  13. Not mentioned here is what has happened in NY recently. Cuomo signed a bill allowing infanticide in his state. That IS murder. He and his Democrat party have flipped out in support of this heinous process. I do not know how any Democrat member of the church can honestly answer question 7 of the temple recommend: ‘Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?’ Whether it is abortion, same-sex marriage, transgenderism, LGBTQ lifestyles, they are all teachings contrary to the gospel of Jesus Christ.

  14. This is by far the best article I have read, other than the prophets’ teachings, on abortion. Bless you for standing up for what is right in the eyes of God!!!

  15. I can’t say thank you enough for having the courage to stand up for the truth. I try to do the same. It’s sad that courage is required to defend gospel principles even among those who call themselves Latter Day Saints, but if that is how it must be, so be it.

  16. I cannot support abortion for my self. I never had to consider it, but I am not in control of others and their bodies. My role is not to judge, but to let God do that. Instead of condemning others for it, why don’t we make it easier to support that person, and give the option of adoption, at a reasonable cost to new parents? It seems there should be less anger and self-righteousness, and more loving given to those in the situation. You never hear about programs that encourage the birth, and other solutions for the problem. In this era, it could be a registry for having a child for an infertile couple, without their indebtedness of thousands of dollars. Seems like a win-win to me. Anybody know of such a program without such profit motives?

  17. Fantastic post! Thank you for referencing President Nelson’s 1985 General Conference talk. I enjoyed reading that and found comfort in hearing a general authority affirm what my heart already knew about when life begins. Women who miscarry can find much comfort in his words that further clarify what Joseph Smith said about quickening of the baby.

    Again, great post. I have read some of the comments and my heart is with those who are on the journey along the path of testimony and understanding. There are many stops along the way. I love the compassion for the women. I pray that our compassion for the baby grows and equals that of the mother.

  18. Thank you so much! It seems like common sense, but so many people just don’t seem to understand. I want to help them, but their minds and hearts are already closed, and in the mean time we are bystanders to the most horrific genocide that has ever happened! How can we mostly ask for Gods blessing to be upon us when we won’t defend these helpless victims! Everyone who wants to defend choice needs to stick up for the choice of the baby. The mother had all kinds of choices before becoming pregnant ( minus those rare circumstances) and that life has begun. Sure, I will have compassion for her by trying to help her not make such a horrible mistake (that will cause harm to jer and the baby) and I will support her in finding and providing resources for them both. Adoption is always a good answer, too.

  19. My one disagreement: “You no longer are freely exercising your agency, you are acting in direct opposition against the Lord and His servants.” I believe this should be revised to: “You are using your agency to act in direct opposition to the Lord and His servants.”

  20. You are right that abortion for convenience or family planning cannot be supported by any follower of Christ.

    However, there is a big difference between honoring my covenants to family, life, children, and the gospel — and in attempting to impose those positions, by force of law, on others who do not share our beliefs. One of our Father’s choicest sons presented a plan in the eternal councils before this world — “Behold, here am I, send me, I will be thy son, and I will redeem all mankind, that one soul shall not be lost, and surely I will do it; wherefore give me thine honor.” (Moses 4:1) His plan was one that relied on force. Our Father rejected Lucifer’s plan.

    How does the church fight abortion? We send people to family’s homes — to work with them one on one, to share the Holy Spirit, and to allow conversion to take place freely and fully respecting the agency of each individual. That must be our model as well. Set the proper example — and take joy in your family and children. Share that joy with those around you. Share your beliefs and blessings. Invite them to learn more.

    But let’s remember that relying on the government (the arm of flesh) is to surrender our own ability to act. The government has no more ability to prevent abortion than it does to prevent drug use. A law against abortion (which astute observers know wasn’t passed while the GOP controlled all three branches of government) would put the incompetence of the TSA in the delivery room, the love of the IRS at your OB/Gyn, the hammer of social services in your home, and the efficiency of the post office in the hospital. Force is not God’s way to win hearts and minds.

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